WW2 aircraft

[Librarian]

Well, that peculiarly mounted American Jacobs L 4-M actually caused that little technical trance of mine, my dear Mr. Wingsofwrath. Otherwise, I think that this construction was pretty outdated for the late thirties, especially if we reconsider the fact that this Norwegian Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk MF 12 monoplane trainer was intended as a replacement for the good old MF 8.

However, as the sun colors flowers, so does art color life - says the old proverb. And this old birdie surely is an example for that stance.

You will excuse me for a moment, I have to find something in my rarity cabinet.

In the meantime, as always – all the best!

[carson1934]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Well, that peculiarly mounted American Jacobs L 4-M actually caused that little technical trance of mine, my dear Mr. Wingsofwrath. Otherwise, I think that this construction was pretty outdated for the late thirties, especially if we reconsider the fact that this Norwegian Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk MF 12 monoplane trainer was intended as a replacement for the good old MF 8.

However, as the sun colors flowers, so does art color life - says the old proverb. And this old birdie surely is an example for that stance.

You will excuse me for a moment, I have to find something in my rarity cabinet.

In the meantime, as always – all the best!

Of course it is dear Librarian and how stupid of me.
I went thru the whole list of seaplanes on Google but paid too much attention to the date "1939".
When I visited the Norway chapter and I saw against each item the date 1930's I stupidly skipped it without realizing that Google meant when writing "1930's" that the whole decade was obviously included.
Anyway as the saying goes:
"Excusatio non petita accusatio manifesta"
Cheers
carson

[Librarian]

In iudicando criminosa est celeritas, sed veritas filia temporis est, carrisime amice! Therefore - slowly but surely, that’s our maxim.

In addition, here is another mystery machine for you, honorable ladies and gentlemen:



She is... a little bit more conventional, but she surely has a very interesting history as well. I shall feel happy to learn that this birdie has succeeded in inspiring you with the same old equanimity and interest.

In the meantime, as always – all the best!

[wingsofwrath]

My, my. It looks to me like the Waco ARE - WRE from 1939-41
The first letter, "A" through "W", represents the engine, "R" means "Series 1939" and "E" stands for "Cabin Executive".

The Waco airplanes were manufactured in a bedazzling array of shapes and powerplants, so identifying the exact plane would be night impossible.

ARE:



SRE



In USAF service, as the UC-72:

[Librarian]

Our only problem, my dear Mr. Wingsofwrath, is that fabrication of this tiny, but incredibly usable and versatile aircraft actually started in 1938 and ceased in1940, by which time only 21 examples had been built.

[carson1934]

Good afternoon gentlemen,
Librarian's aircraft is a bit non-descript for me though I'll keep on looking since "celeritas criminosa est"...maybe a small tiny clue?
carson

[Librarian]

Some additional clues, my dear Mr. Carson? No problem – here they are! This versatile airplane possessed the lower wing somewhat behind the upper wing, and therefore we can say that the plane possessed a positive stagger, as well as an air cooled seven-cylinder radial engine.

[carson1934]

Dear Librarian
in spite of your latest clue I'm still unable, much to my shame, to identify a/c of your thread n. 678 of Oct.31
Now if you don't want me to succumb under the unbearable burden of my disgraceful condition I strongly suggest you should provide one more clue or give us outright the solution of this riddle for the sake of the continuance of this valuable forum.
As somebody said:"Spes Ultima Dea...."
Or using the words of Foscolo, whom you undoubtedly know: "Anche la speme, ultima dea, fugge i sepolcri..."
with my deepest consideration
carson

[Librarian]

Grata superveniet quae non sperabitur hora, My dear Mr. Carson!

Here is another clue for you; at least one example of this handy little aircraft with the 150 HP petrol engine was captured by the Red Army and used for search and rescue work in the USSR after the war!

[carson1934]

Dear Librarian
"per fas et nefas" I tried to reconcile my meagre knowledge of utility aircrafts with the leads that you were kind enough to give me.
However I was unable to locate your aircraft and I feel it is now high time to hoist white flag and to let this forum go ahead.
However I'm sure that I'll bite my fists when the name of this a/c is disclosed
Cheers
carson

[Librarian]

Tollenti onus auxiliare, deponenti nequaquam, my dear Mr. Carson. Please, don’t worry - after all this is only a game.

And the answer is: Tachikawa KKY-2

All relevant informations about this almost completely forgotten machine are available here:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...32870&start=15

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other2/kky.html

http://www.j-aircraft.com/captured/c...tured_kky2.htm

And now, without delay here is another one:



We shall be very glad to receive your kind offers.

In the meantime, as always – all the best!

[carson1934]

Thanks very much my dear Mr. Librarian
That particular Tachikawa model was completely unknown to me....
"Ludus animo debet aliquando dari, ad cogitandum melior ut
redeat tibi"

Concerning the new offer this is very similar to the polish PZL P/38 "Wilk" but there is something that baffles me therefore I'll keep on searching unless of course you confirm my supposition...
all the best to you
carson

Sorry please disregard my previous message it is definitely a PWS33 "Wyzel" of 1938 built by Podlaska Witwornia Samolotow of which only two prototypes were produced

[Librarian]

Nullius boni sine socio iucunda possessio, my dear Mr. Carson!

Yes, you are absolutely right. My sincerest congratulations! And now, please – lead the way!

[carson1934]

Good evening dear Mr.Librarian
may I for a change offer you the following racer of the thirties now completely forgotten though a product of a famous manufacturer
Good luck
carson

[kiwimac]

First glance I thought it might be a PZL P-1 but undercarriage is not quite right.